Friday, June 30, 2006

Chassidic Trivia

Numbers of references to teachings from the Baal Shem Tov:

Toldos Yaakov Yosef: 249

Degel Machaneh Ephraim: 217


(Inside the Ohel of the Baal Shem Tov)

posted by A Simple Jew @ 4:38 AM   6 comments

6 Comments:

At June 30, 2006 at 8:56:00 AM EDT, Blogger yitz said...

This is not trivia at all, but shows the great importance of these wonderful sefarim. The Toldos was the first Chassidic sefer ever printed!!!

 
At June 30, 2006 at 9:44:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The total number references to the Baal Shem Tov in Toldoys sforim is even higher. (If you include all his sforim). Who counted it by the way?

 
At July 2, 2006 at 5:20:00 AM EDT, Blogger A Simple Jew said...

Yitz: It is trivia in the sense that people might not know the exact count.

A Yid: Samuel Dresner's book "The Zaddik" was the source of my count for the sefer Toldos Yaakov Yosef. (Certainly there are many more in the Toldos's other seforim). As for the count in Degel Machaneh Ephraim, I counted these myself.

 
At July 2, 2006 at 10:49:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be proper to count unique references as well. Some of them are to the same Baal Shem Tov's maymorim.

There is a recent seyfer "Shmuoys Yisroel" which is a pirush on all "Shomati mimoyri.." in all of the Toldoys sforim. Made by "Daas Yoysef" in Yerusholaim. (Of course they are endless and any pirush is insufficient, but it's better than nothing!) Pretty nice work, however not very easy to get.

 
At July 2, 2006 at 5:30:00 PM EDT, Blogger A Simple Jew said...

A Yid: Thanks for the heads up on this. Do you learn Toldos regularly as part of your seder?

 
At July 3, 2006 at 11:28:00 AM EDT, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not regularly. I learn some other Talmidey Baal Shem as a seyder, and his maymorim in Toldoys. I didn't get to learn Toldoys straight yet. Really I'm waiting for R' Avrohom Loyfer's edition to come out. (He made so far only Bereyshis, and also printed Ben Poyras Yoyser (part 1) and Tzafnas Paneyach). His edition is the best so far, so I'm not jumping to buy other editions. Though I have a copy of the first Koretz edition of Toldoys (not real one of course - this costs fortune and impossible to get) but a reproduction. But Toldoys is a tough limud, even with pirush and help in new editions. So there are few real Toldoys learners unfortunally.

 

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