Thursday, October 19, 2006


Davidic Dynasty: Disclaimer


At October 19, 2006 at 11:30:00 AM EDT, Anonymous sabrina (bershad) said...

Did the Degel claim descent from King David?

I'm inclined to go with the theory that the rebbes who claimed such yichus wouldn't have done so without substantial reasons for thinking it was so (even though they probably had no written documentation). In such cases, I think "family tradition" is pretty reliable (although that is just MHO).

When you think about how many generations since King David, and how many children were born in each generation, there must be many, many living descendants. And that is equally true for the other patriarchs and prophets. The world of Judaism is populated with the descendants of these illustrious ancestors!

At October 19, 2006 at 11:33:00 AM EDT, Blogger A Simple Jew said...

The Degel doesn't address it in his sefer, hoever Davidic Dynasty seems to have him listed as a descendant and for some reason posted the picture I took of his keverhere

At October 19, 2006 at 12:51:00 PM EDT, Blogger Bob Miller said...

It's said that a large percentage of Ashkenazim descend in some way from David HaMelech.

How many descend from Shlomo HaMelech, however, is very unclear to me. Have any rebbeim claimed descent from Shlomo?

At October 19, 2006 at 2:02:00 PM EDT, Anonymous chabakuk elisha said...

Many Rabbeim claim Davidic decent - by tracing their lineage to the Maharal (who it was accepted came from Dovid hamelech - I think it written so on his matzeiva). However, I understand that their is no documentaion listing the who's or how's as proof for the Maharal.
In Lubavitch, the later 5 Rebbe's trace their lineage to the Metzudos Dovid (also accepted to have been from Dovid hamelech - but I'm not sure how, or even when or where he lived).

At October 19, 2006 at 7:45:00 PM EDT, Anonymous shoshana (bershad) said...

ASJ, thanks for the link to this interesting site! I've spent a very pleasant afternoon browsing its contents.

Chabakuk Elisha: One of the articles on the Davidic Dynasty site is the following, by Rabbi Chaim Freedman:

He disputes earlier claims that the Maharal of Prague was descended from King David through the line of Yehudah Leib the Elder, but he finds support for a different line of descent through Rashi and the House of Hillel.

I found this chart (among others) helpful:

Also, I was moved to read this article on Torah and genealogy:

which supports my feeling that my genealogical research is not just for myself, or for my children, but for connecting spiritually with my ancestors and perpetuating their memory---and hopefully living up to that heritage.

At October 20, 2006 at 4:47:00 AM EDT, Blogger Mottel said...

Berel Wein says that 8/10 Ashkenazim come from Rashi . . .

At October 21, 2006 at 11:48:00 PM EDT, Blogger avakesh said...

The fact is that is you go back 600 years, all Jews are related, Ashkenazim and Sefardim. (Introduction to R. Arye Kaplan's, Made in Heaven.)

I have some doubts about the whole Davidic enterprise because of the potential for political radicalism, see a post on my blog,

At October 23, 2006 at 6:43:00 AM EDT, Blogger A Simple Jew said...

Avakesh: Thanks. Would you be able to provide the quote from the Kaplan book?


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