Continuing The Discussion - Hisbodedus vs. Hisbonenus
After reviewing our discussion on "Reasons For Not Jumping Straight Into Hisbodedus":
Rabbi Lazer Brody commented,
"Rabbenu Nachman told us to do 60 minutes of hisbodedus a day. The highest level is bitul, when I nullify my own sechel and subjugate myself to the tzaddik, and do what he tells me. That's what hiskashrus is all about."
Rabbi Ozer Bergman commented,
"Rebbe Nachman teaches (Likutey Moharan I, 29) that dibbur without daas isn't dibbur. Just to say words without thinking about what one is saying (the way most people daven?) is no way to have hisbodedus or even a conversation with a fellow human being!
In hisbodedus, some words need to be thought about before one can decide whether or not he really means them ("Is that what I want?" "Can I really promise this to Hashem?" "Do I truly feel this way?")
Some words are true, but need "fire." One has to "get himself into the zone" to speak them with earnest, honest passion.
Some words are so true they come straight from the gut -- thinking only gets in the way."
Rabbi Dovid Sears commented:
"I once asked Rav Kenig of Tzefat about the role of contemplation in hisbodedus, and he referred me to Torah 10 in the second part of Likkutei Moharan. This lesson discusses "yishuv ha-daas," gained through contemplation of the meaning of life and the futility of pursuing mundane desires. It also stresses the importance of simchah, in the sense of cultivating a positive frame of mind. Rav Kenig said that all this is part of hisbodedus, too."